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Cruel Fox
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Posted - 2008.01.12 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: nync We are glad dmc are strong and stand proud and ready to defend themselves, and with might of 2 titans to obliterate any hostile forses attacking them. they have outgrown our protection and don't need it anymore. And atacking KA-TET is another smart move from them and killing aoen class mothership. I wish them good luck and all the best. And hearing this from DMC Ceo, I wana just say 1 thing: DIE 
Platinum Dagger > eat **** ******* traders Platinum Dagger > RA and you will DIE Platinum Dagger > **** u
All standing are reset starting from now, you are KOS now.
Thx for flatering however - u r rusians and u keep your words right?
Even that we r so strong that Ka TET now needs your help against us to threathend to give out titans - u r braking a deal! A deal we fairlly paied! U gave therms - we accepted them and payed - u now braking the deal! I am bowing to honor in your body!
However - no mater the presure - no matter what u do - u aint geting what u want 
Have fun - board turns all the time 
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 17:31:00 -
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Ok long story short!
DMC got invaded by Pure - we needed help - we were not geting any! So u look up and see who u can pay! So RA offered us a life time protection! Sonded good, sounded tasty! Sounded expencive. What the hell - we have isk - after all we r isk farmers 
We payed upfront the sum wich RA asked for - after that Nync was so nice to put up a post. We all know how that ended after that.
At the mean time DMC was holding and making things as well - ofc no one knew about it. As we realized the power of titans we offered them to RA. It looked like smart move to give our life time protector titans.RA didnt want them at production cost but at mineral cost; xxxlegionxxx tried to steal one out - thx to CCP it is where it should be - and then RA stoped comunication  Oh - they said - gl with your protection 
Anyhow - it was clear from there on what they will do; they said b4 to us TITNS will be for your protection - (we now see how our moms protects us) - however they already presented us with statment; Ka TET will atack u!
Unfortunalyl for RA they didnt thought it will go this far! Original plan presented to DMC by KA TET: -Ka TET pos spam outpost system under blue standings! -DMC cals in RA - ra either came in and took our capitl fleet out or asks for Titans!
Guys - It hapened once - u show your trustworthy - it aint hapening more !!! U can get titans on your kilmails or as your kilmail!
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Cruel Fox Ok long story short!
DMC got invaded by Pure - we needed help - we were not geting any! So u look up and see who u can pay!
You could not handle Pure alone and now you take on RA? Seems strange to say the least.
No one took it on RA - it is obviuslly who took it on who!
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Avon WTB: 2xTitan, reasonable price paid.
Wondering - BOB sounds like good friend - seling titans to BOB why not - they r not in our space with 250 fleet :)
But DMC will keep titans! We shell need them to pay RA to stop siging us! 
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Taison
Originally by: Frygok
Originally by: Mc Leech You can blaim this on capital deals all you want.
The simple truth is when 2 blues fighting the rest stay out of it, like KOS vs AAA for example. Now if KOS asked BOB for help vs AAA they will instantly become red to entire coalition which should be no surprize.
You allied yourself with chaos and atlas that are red, that made you red, as simple as that the rest are just excuses.
Then you shouldn't have promised them what you did, now should you?
When one blue is agressing another blue that you have given lifelong protection, you don't feel like you should step in?
U know - i actually dont care mucg but 1 thing that should be considered here is the fact that DMC responded instantly to the ka-tet agression with the combined force of them and 2 hostile alliances. I just looked at the other thread and it seems that it was created right while the ka-tet were comming. And right in the first posts it says that atlas and ci are with DMC on this. Ahm... was RA even contacted? How much time did RA get to respond? 5 mins? It seems all was decided beforehand. And i suppose thats what nuns means when he says - well they seem not to need our protection anymore. So we have the siding with hostiles against a long time ally combined with trashtalk from the executor of DMC - that makes some deadly angry russians. Thats more than enough for giving green light for some pew pew.
We tried to aproach RA - but if RA is on autoreject and fails to return mails then yea - u know they ment it when they said GL to your protection!
Ka TET was their plan! It failed completlly due to Ka TETs incapabilities! So plan B - lets do it ourselves!
RED aliance is friendlly guys - even their name says that 
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lenaria
Originally by: Unrah Part 2:
The day i finished both of those beautiful ships was a very proud one, now they and backstabbing mentality just make me sad.
I am soo filled with rage atm that i should probably not post this, but hell, too late. /hitting ok button now/
Now i see why RA attacked you. Building moms for sale is already considered okish in current eve. But building titans - still not. I guess your intention to sell titans to whoever highest bidder was not a very nice surprise for RA. Allthought i agree things look quite dirty, i still remember the very same DMC fiercely rejecting any rumors about paying RA for protection.
We would GLADLLY sell them to our good protectors RA - therefore titans were offered to RA!- but not at loss! why would we build anything at loss?
Never ever plan was to sell them to ANYONE! Make em for DMC - letf ower for allays and to cover high production expences!
However i never said we have not payed anything? Quote me on that! I said we aint pets! and we r proving that right now!
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 20:21:00 -
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Oh - 1 nice one as well! Ka TET ppl likes DMC looks like and this is what mine mail says from KA TET:
2008.01.09 17:28 Hey :) I have some intel for you you might be interessted in. Pls keep this if possible confidential. I know you want to contact the diplos and sort this out but my suggestion would be: Prepare your fleet keep it secret and be ready, if nothing happens, I'm sorry and nobody needs to now sth about this eve-mail
Ok here is the intel I want you to know:
Keep in mind I'm only a normal member and the FCs give not away many intel, this is all I know
Ka-Tet is planing to attack you tomorrow, they want to form up a fleet at 18:00 eve-time (not totally certified yet) and then head to your space with some freighters. They want to enter one of your outpost system (donno whitch exactly) and then spam poses and camp your OP while you contact the Ka-Tet diplos and try to sort out whats is going on.My info I get from a FC/CEO under the hand is that they hope you bring your whole capital fleet in and engage the Ka-Tet POSes, and perhaps call for Red alliance to help you take the POSes down. After Red arrives through your jump portal and siege with you the Ka-Tet POSes RED is going to betray you and attack your cap fleet and trying to take them out with one strike. After you lost your caps RED is heading home and Ka-Tet is going to take your space, they payed a bunch of money to RED for their help....so far the plan that I know of...
get some spies a few jumps outside and wait, if they report a Ka-Tet gang heading to you, you know that I was telling the truth..prepare a trap or sth I donno.
So nice isnt it - we cut of this plan so pure Ka TET failed and RA taking care DMC gets scared!
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.12 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Ptinoz Platinum Dagger > f*ck u Platinum Dagger > we gave u ** bill Platinum Dagger > to protect us Platinum Dagger > now u attack us Platinum Dagger > f*ck u Vandraren > STOP TALK NOW!"!!!! maya ibuki2 > STOP SMACKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Katie Price > lol Platinum Dagger > leave our space u dont like it Katie Price > u gave us nothing Tal Notts > platinum stop talking in local maya ibuki2 > platinum shut the h*ll up Andrast3 > NO TALKING IN LOCAL! Platinum Dagger > planium is otr99 Platinum Dagger > so f*ck *ff
Bye DMC. Nice knowing ya....
and i could cal this well spoken deserved coment on RA - a lot of ppl could sweeten up some more words i bet     
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 06:02:00 -
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Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 06:03:08 Too all those who r posting about russians rasism ect, here it is how it starts 
RA/legion asuring DMC they r THE ONE
2007.12.03 17:51 You do have to understand we are russians and we do have an our own honor and reputaion
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I now definetlly know what hte words OUR OWN do there 
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mutant RA hint to DMC: free selling titans on market it's not good idea (private talk with DMC leadership). Sell MS' and will be happy. Use titans by self or sell to allies, RA make a first offer: 50 bil (we like a chaffer :) And so what, we see free WTA: titans buyout 130 bil. The forecast of summer prices: 60-80 bil. DMC want to be the best titans seller in EVE, gl guys...
P.S. Pay all yr money to war (merc or so), this is better idea ;)
Sell me 10 of them by that price plz!!!
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 07:50:21
Originally by: Mutant
Originally by: Cruel Fox Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 07:26:34 Sell me 10 of them by that price plz!!! Offer was made to RA - u dont like them - we keep em - good thing we didnt sell them now when we see how trustworthy u r to begin with!
What a talking about trust after WTA 130 bil?
We show u truet with 4 Mses and aproching u with 2 Titans offers! U decided to **** us ower! 1 way to repay the lost of 4 MSes u just made for us is seling 1 titan!
But hey - gl with your protection hapend 14 days b4!
Oh - why i am arguing with u - u are RA - the rusions and u have your own honor and trust!
Also - cut the crap on 50 - it was 40 to begin with - and then wehn u saw it is really not going anywhere u were generus enought to bring it up to 50 - now do the math how much it takes to build avatar! This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Disra To all you whiners. Shut up, while ra and freinds come to kill you.
If for some reason we dont manage to do so within a few days than by all means smack talk! Untill than how bout this thread be closed :p
Learn how to use your guns and concentrate less on how to make us look ooo soo ebil. 
Then i can do that already - as few days is not what is theorethically posible  _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Afterthoughts...
* giving 5 jumps notice before resetting an alliance is insufficient notice. Truely that was lame from the outset guys and extremely unsporting of you. I have no doubt who this idea came from.
* No one has sufficiently explained why Atlas and CI reset ka-tet over this. I thought we(they) had pretty good standings after the Frege conflict. Surprising course tbh.
* Anyone still currently in Ka-tet should seriously consider and remember the next few weeks closely and than juxtapose this with possible future dealings with RA. Considering the older members of ka-tet have mostly left and the deception of pvp strength that ka-tet has balanced alot of its political negotiations on has been exposed, how long do you think before RA replaces ka-tet with a stronger alliance more capable of providing protection/ a secure flank for RA. Remember ka-tet has Con 4 sov in 1 constellation and 2 constellations that are very well developed in terms of OP's. Its a great region to control in terms of industrial strength, just assy for any pvp action because it is/was such a backwater.
Ka TET never was to change standings if we would not get inside warning 10 min b4;
As for Atlas and CI goes - i was surprised and shocked on offering help; Bobby can explain and coment it. However it was more then welcomed since we already knew it is RA behind Ka TET anyway. However RA wanted to stay "cloaked" behind - but sended bad oponent to scared of DMC to give out titans! Hope it explains a bit _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 09:15:25 Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 09:14:44
Originally by: Delphi Disra Edited by: Delphi Disra on 13/01/2008 09:09:37
Originally by: Cruel Fox
Originally by: Delphi Disra To all you whiners. Shut up, while ra and freinds come to kill you.
If for some reason we dont manage to do so within a few days than by all means smack talk! Untill than how bout this thread be closed :p
Learn how to use your guns and concentrate less on how to make us look ooo soo ebil. 
Then i can do that already - as few days is not what is theorethically posible 
When I said kill you I meant that as an alliance, not as taking your stations that will come in due time. My "sources" say that your carebares are all whining and crying, your alliance will be killed soon enough ;)
Your spouting honour and all that crap, just fight forum foo gives you nothing... activate those guns ;)
No responce needed to miskof. I stand by my words.
SHUT UP AND FIGHT!
Luckly we have better sources in yours aliances then obviuslly u have in ours
- about carebaring - i bow to your pvp alliance! _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Disra Edited by: Delphi Disra on 13/01/2008 09:16:41 Than come kill me 
Again shut up and fight, I'm in your station system :)
Is that why your towers r going down then right now? _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 12:09:39 Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 12:08:02 Again to the one who dont read all post;
timeline: -Pure atacks DMC -DMC pays liftime protection to RA -RA clears Oasa (ex G5KW region) -DMC offers titans to RA -RA was happy -RA was generus and offers 80 bil for 2 titans -DMC declines as expect around 80 bil for 1 -RA says GL to your protection at this point they braken deal already!!! -RA thinks how to mil titans out of DMC -RA asks KA TET to invade -KA TET invades - but fails -RA decides to threathened DMC alone to milk out titans
DMC says - NO!
Oh and thx to RA to declearing us on as strong pvp aliance who r invading and taking away other alliances space! Finally end with all that carebare ****!
and read mine baner  _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 15:17:04 Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 15:14:19
Originally by: Lucy Ford Cruel Fox > Goons r already unhappy wth this Cruel Fox > they want RA back
c/d?
oh and...LOL
i shell be exact: remove unhappy insert - irritating distraction (bad me)
And whats so funy about it - goons an ra works together against bob perfectlly! So RA being in our space is not what they like, wanted, or planed. So yea - BOB likes su as we will keep RA in our space for longer then RA thought.
Plan of scaring and leting titans go is not working and wont work - so wish RA plesent long stay!
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: xRazoRx
Originally by: Cruel Fox Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 15:17:04 Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 15:14:19
Originally by: Lucy Ford Cruel Fox > Goons r already unhappy wth this Cruel Fox > they want RA back
c/d?
oh and...LOL
i shell be exact: remove unhappy insert - irritating distraction (bad me)
And whats so funy about it - goons an ra works together against bob perfectlly! So RA being in our space is not what they like, wanted, or planed. So yea - BOB likes su as we will keep RA in our space for longer then RA thought.
Plan of scaring and leting titans go is not working and wont work - so wish RA plesent long stay!
get a clue, man
yes plz? what is it? _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zanarkand
Originally by: Cruel Fox ...
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THX! Will stay!   _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: xRazoRx
Originally by: Cruel Fox
Originally by: xRazoRx
Originally by: Cruel Fox Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 15:17:04 Edited by: Cruel Fox on 13/01/2008 15:14:19
Originally by: Lucy Ford Cruel Fox > Goons r already unhappy wth this Cruel Fox > they want RA back
c/d?
oh and...LOL
i shell be exact: remove unhappy insert - irritating distraction (bad me)
And whats so funy about it - goons an ra works together against bob perfectlly! So RA being in our space is not what they like, wanted, or planed. So yea - BOB likes su as we will keep RA in our space for longer then RA thought.
Plan of scaring and leting titans go is not working and wont work - so wish RA plesent long stay!
get a clue, man
yes plz? what is it?
Ask BoB if they have holidays first.
Ofc they do - all ppl have those - maybe not in third world contries but yea... world is geting nicer towords us all  _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.13 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: RoseyRC
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Lenaria Edited by: Lenaria on 13/01/2008 09:21:57
Originally by: Mutant RA hint to DMC: free selling titans on market it's not good idea (private talk with DMC leadership). Sell MS' and will be happy. Use titans by self or sell to allies, RA make a first offer: 50 bil (we like a chaffer :) And so what, we see free WTA: titans buyout 130 bil. The forecast of summer prices: 60-80 bil. DMC want to be the best titans seller in EVE, gl guys...
P.S. Pay all yr money to war (merc or so), this is better idea ;)
OMG, i was right in my suspictions. Selling titans to highest bidder = bad.
P.S. The thing is RA dont really need Titans at any price above its mineral cost - they build Titans themselfes. RA main concern seems what DMC building 2 titans a month and then selling them left and right to highest bidder (dont tell me what DMC can absorb 2 titans a month just for themselfes) - would strengsten RA's enemies or even "friends" such as RK/SMASH.
In my personal opinion this is the main reason (among several) for what is happening. It's interesting that notwithstanding all the DMC's whining and hysterics, the obvious answer that it was their greed that destroyed them will eventually come out as the clearest explanation.
Can you really be this stupid? You have admitted to trying to steal a titan from DMC while being under a permanent protection contract. And when that attempt of scamming a blue fails you and RA now cook up a series of ever more ******** excuses on how its not your fault?
I mean if your going to be scum just admit it. The pathetic attempts of nonsensical lies and spin is just stupid.
THIS! Can u really be that stupid? - YES! Obviuslly they can but hell they have reputation and honor of their own! _________________________________________ This one really makes me smile this days:
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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.16 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Cruel Fox on 16/01/2008 12:01:52 To give few anwswers:
-DMC wont loos 2 titans and we do have pilots -DMC didnt and had NO intention to sell titans to any of RA hostiles! Remember they were offered to RA at first, and we tried to actually sell them to XIX and nearlly got scamed (but if there is need we prolly can do it now) -someone asked was it worth it; DAMND right it was! It was worht it. Seling under mineral cost would make us without sence/honor/pride/respect/freedom and we decided that those worth more!
Therefore again RA can take ower our claimed space - but eve comunity got clear msg and picture who u have to deal with! Yes for that it was worth it! Even in worse case scenario lets do the math: 4 mses = 80 bil 4 outposts = 80 bil ergo we r loosing 160 bil! We r loosing what we offered them; we offered RA our space and we gave RA 4 MSes; but we keep 2 titans! We keep freedom, we keep pride.
So yea - would do it again - with skiping the part ever tried to belive RA will protect us! There goes mine baner again! _________________________________________ Russian true speach about themselves:

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Cruel Fox
Singulerity Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.16 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: RDLxVulture I guess it would be much cheaper for BOBs to build titans themselve
I will try just ONCE MORE and then i call it - u r just mentally XXXX;
Titans was offered to RA; DMC was trying to sell em to RA, RA tried to scame them away! So wtf r u on about?
but makes sence - DMC makes titans for BOB, thats why we offer them to RA, ect ect and on the end we sell it to BOB for who we originally buld anyway!
How dumb could i be! I just owned this logic throught this! From now on i am smarter! Thx! SOOOOOOO much - i LOVE u! _________________________________________ Russian true speach about themselves:
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